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. and he'll be introduced by senators john mccain, by elizabeth warren and the current secretary of state, hillary clinton. it's expected to be very different than the fiery hearing yesterday in that very same room where secretary clinton made a passionate defense to republican senators aggressive questioning about what happened in benghazi. >> the fact is we had four dead americans. was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they would go kill some americans? what difference at this point does it make? it's our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, senator. >> i want to bring in ron, national correspondent and editorial director, and michael crowley, times deputy washington bureau chief. good morning, ron, let me start with you. i thought the hearing yesterday had so many fascinating moments to it. should be very different today, don't you think? >> yeah. that was probably the best moment you pulled out there. that was secretary clinton being forceful, showing some accountability,
ever happening again, senator. >> that did not satisfy the administration's leading critic, john mccain. >> i categorically reject your answer to senator johnson about, well, we didn't ask these survivors, who were flown to ramstein the next day, that is a spontaneous demonstration. the american people deserve to know answers. >>> diffusing the debt crisis, the house moving right now to raise the debt limit, but temporarily, and there's a catch. there's always a catch. >> this bill before us is real simple. it says, congress, if you don't do a budget, you don't get paid. >> this linkage is a gimmick, it's a joke, it's not right. it's designed to put people on the spot. >>> playing offense. the nra fights back against the president. >> he's more than willing to demonize his opponents, silence his critics, and slur the nra. >> our special guest, susan o z eisenhower taking on the web ad about the obama daughters. >>> and surprise, even bo obama gets into the act as the first family greets unsuspecting tourists at the white house. with, in fact, a fist bump from the commander in chief. >>
cool. another school shooting, this one in texas. and wait until you hear what senator john mccain said about waterboarding and john kerry. good morning, i'm mara schiavocampo. a bitterly cold arctic blast is gripping half the nation this morning. exposure is suspected in at least four deaths, dangerously low temperatures is shutting down schools and causing water main breaks. on tuesday, one person was killed in this massive pile up of 20 vehicles caused by icy conditions in michigan. nbc meteorologist bill karins has more on this dangerous cold snap. where is it headed? >> it's settled in, just sitting there now. for many of us, especially on the eastern seaboard, this is the coldest morning in a couple years, especially when you factor in the windchills. here's the set up. it's not everyone. we're very mild today, great lakes, oklahoma, texas, through the gulf states, if you're on the other side of the jet stream from the northern plains, the great lakes and northeast, it's just like yesterday if not worse. the windchills this morning, right now the worst of it is in northern new eng
john mccain is another guy who thinks the american people were misled about benghazi. he accused secretary clinton about not being honest again today. >> there are many questions that are unanswered. and the answers, frankly, that you have given this morning are not satisfactory to me. >> strong words from senator mccain. he must have a very detailed question for secretary clinton if he wants to get some answers. >> the american people deserve to know answers, and they certainly don't deserve false answers. and the answers that were given to the american people on september 15th by the ambassador of the united nations were false. >> no, same old question about ambassador rice. here is a reminder to senator mccain. every senator, including john mccain, knows the answer to the question about susan rice. ambassador rice went on the sunday shows with talking points approved by the cia. the cia informed members of congress about it two months ago. democratic senator dick durbin of illinois wanted to make clear what happens when intelligence information is still evolving. >> and i'd li
clinton was side by side with senator mccain to introduce kerry as the best choice to follow in her footsteps. >> he's a determined and effective representative of the united states. has been as a senator, will be as secretary. >> and things were cordial enough moments ago. senator mccain was still blasting clinton for her testimony yesterday. >> she really didn't answer any questions, her response to senator johnson about whether there was a spontaneous demonstration or not, saying it didn't matter, it didn't matter how these people died? that was stunning. that was really stunning. of course it matters. >> all right, let's dive right in and say good morning to our thursday political power. mark ginsburg, joi ann reed, ron reagan, and republican strategist susan del percio. it's great to have you all here. as we speak right now, the confirmation hearing of john kerry is taking place. started roughly after 10:00 a.m. and this is a big difference of what we saw yesterday, ironically enough, this is the senate committee that kerry technically still chairs, and he made a joke about tha
trying to win over support for his nomination as defense secretary. today he met with senator john mccain who has been a vocal critic of the obama administration. late this afternoon mccain said he and hagel had a frank and candid conversation in which they discussed some of mccain's concerns. mccain also called hagel an old friend. it's worth remembering both men are veterans of the vietnam war and that's certainly a band of brothers. we'll be right back. hey, our salads. [ bop ] [ bop ] [ bop ] you can do that all you want, i don't like v8 juice. [ male announcer ] how about v8 v-fusion. a full serving of vegetables, a full serving of fruit. but what you taste is the fruit. so even you... could've had a v8. if we took the already great sentra apart and completely reimagined it with best-in-class combined mpg and more interior room than corolla and civic and a technology suite with bluetooth, navigation, and other handy stuff? yeah, that would be cool. introducing the all-new nissan sentra. it's our most innovative sentra ever. nissan. innovation that excites. now get a $169 per month le
to face little resistance during his hearing tomorrow, though senator john mccain joked he is looking forward to interrogating his long-time colleague. >> we had a good conversation with senator kerry. we look forward to interrogating him at his hearing next week, mercilessly. we will bring back for the only time waterboarding to get the truth out of him. >> jocularity about the kerry hearing but tougher time for chuck hagel. president obama's nominee to be secretary of defense. senator mccain met with hagel yesterday and said the two had a frank and candid conversation ahead of next week's confirmation hearings for hageh. >>> joe biden beginning his second term as vice president, and he is keeping a close eye of possibility on moving down the hall to the bigger office. it's been widely reported that the president appeared to be in high 2016 campaign mode throughout inauguration weekend. mr. biden said it is too early to think about that, but he's not taking his name out of the running. >> is there any reason you wouldn't run? >> there's a whole lot of reasons why i wouldn't run. i ha
are not takers in this country. mccain said the president should have reached out in the speech saying this is the eight inauguration i have been to and always there's been a portion of the speech where the president says i reach out my hand because we need to work together. that wasn't in this speech. so from immigration to the rights of those who are gay in our communities and in our neighborhood, in this country, to the other issues, as far as income inequality that the president said need to be addressed, how do you get this done? >> well, tamron, i must have heard a different speech than senator mccain and paul ryan. i thought the president was very clear that we're all in this together. that we have to put aside the petty political differences and focus on these core issues. it wasn't president obama who said that americans were takers. that was, of course, the position taken by republicans in the last campaign and the president's trying to overcome that whole idea by saying we are in this together. let's take immigration reform. remember, it wasn't that long ago that president b
john mccain who has been a vocal critic of the obama administration. on a lot of fronts. late this afternoon he and hagel had a frank and candid conversation in which they discussed some of mccain's concerns. mccain also called hagel an old friend. it's worth remembering both men are veterans of the vietnam war, and that's certainly a band of brothers. we'll be right back. i have low testosterone. there, i said it. how did i know? well, i didn't really. see, i figured low testosterone would decrease my sex drive... but when i started losing energy and became moody... that's when i had an honest conversation with my doctor. we discussed all the symptoms... then he gave me some blood tests. showed it was low t. that's it. it was a number -- not just me. [ male announcer ] today, men with low t have androgel 1.62% (testosterone gel). the #1 prescribed topical testosterone replacement therapy, increases testosterone when used daily. women and children should avoid contact with application sites. discontinue androgel and call your doctor if you see unexpected signs of early puberty
secretary. today he met with senator john mccain who has been a vocal critic of the obama administration. on a lot of fronts. late this afternoon he and hagel had a frank and candid conversation in which they discussed some of mccain's concerns. mccain also called hagel an old friend. it's worth remembering both men are veterans of the vietnam war, and that's certainly a band of brothers. we'll be right back. >>> january 22nd, 1973 will stand out as one of the great days for freedom and free choice. this allows a woman free choice as to whether or not remain pregnant. this is extraordinary. >> welcome back to "hardball" that clip is from nbc news nightly 40 years ago when the supreme court handed down that roe v. wade decision. today our brand-new nbc news/wall street journal poll shows that for the first time in the history of the poll, our poll, a majority, 54% say abortion should be legal always, or most of the time. and the percentage of people who say roe v. wade should not be overturned has been rising steadily for over 20 years, topping at 70% in today's poll. despite the poll num
remain behind the motives for the attack itself and john mccain was also critical of the secretary in his questioning. take a listen. >> people don't bring rbgs and mortars to spontaneous demonstrations, that's a fundamental. and of course the president continued to say days afterwards, september the 12th, maeld a reference to act of terror. september 12th, too early to know. september 20th on univision, still doing an investigation. september 24th on "the view", still doing an investigation. the president of the united states as late as september 24th, did not acknowledge that this was an act of terror. >> i would urge that you look and read both the classified and unclassified versions of the arb that deals with the questions you and senator johnson are raising the timing and the like. i also hope we're looking forward. libya is still dangerous and still in a very unstable status. >> sir, as the secretary continued to testify, she also made note to say we are in a new reality when it comes to talking about the diplomacy needed for northern africa as well as in the middle east. for libya
, senator john mccain was still demanding answers. >> the american people deserve to know answers, and they certainly don't deserve false answers. people don't bring rpgs and mortars to spontaneous demonstrations. here we are, four months later, and we still don't have the basic information. >> but the harshest criticism of all came from paul legacy, senator rand paul, whose ambitions and disrespect seem to know no bounds. >> i'm glad you're accepting responsibility, i think ultimately with you leaving you're accepting responsibility for the worst tragedy since 9/11, and i really mean that. had i been president at the time and found you did not read the cables from benghazi, did not read the cables from ambassador stevens, i would have removed you from your post. >> it felt senator dick durbin to remind the chamber about actual failures and coverups. >> i do want to make one point for the record here about whether the american people are told everything right away, in the right way, so that they can be fully informed, and i'd like to refer to five words for them to reflect on, "ir
's outgoing chairman enjoyed support, just about from everybody, and from hillary clinton and john mccain as well on his glide path towards confirmation to be secretary of state. that's the easy part. the hard part is what comes next. joining me now for our daily fix is chris caliz sxwl a and post politics.com nbc capitol hill correspondent kelly oh donnell and usa today's washington bureau chief, susan page. thanks very much. first to you. >> sure. >> john kerry has a lot -- very heavy lift to climbing budgets, climbing support for the state department. you have pakistan and afghanistan, with the drawal from afghanistan that will only make it harder, and that has impact on pakistan. china, and russia. leadership in russia, as you know, very, very complicated. where does he look first for support, and, you know, who wants this job? >> i would say the middle east -- the hard thing that you hit on is the challenges for a secretary of state and for the united states generally in foreign policy have not waned. they have probably increased. in libya and benghazi and secretary clinton tried to
committee experience with senator mccain over those years. we had subcommittees. we took it very seriously. we held hearings. we brought people in. we had a three-day markup that was sack crow sank but we had the qdr, where the defense department submitted that and it helped to provide a framework. when i got to the state department, i said, there is nothing like that at the state department. so i started the first ever quad ren yell first ever qdr. you can help me continue that and make the department have to ask the hard questions if you legs late the way the qdr is legs lated for the defense department. secondly, you can help by making sure that the needs we come to you with, like what are the training needs, the budgetary needs, the bureaucratic changes that are needed, that you help support that. and certainly we've talked a little bit about the budget, but getting that transfer authority, if you can help us with the house, it's $1.4 billion, marine security guard detachment, 553 million, we've been closely coordinating with d.o.d., historically marine security guards do not do person
paul, and this is also a look at -- the faces of the republicans, rand paul, ron johnson and john mccain looked so pathetic. and to me, there's something called decorum. and when rand paul sits there and to the second highest ranking official in our country and someone who has done a spectacular job says i would have had your job, that's pathetic. that's the amateur hour. and that's the republicans. >> willie. >> he's got a right to challenge her on it. he's not supposed to sit there. >> that is nir jtheir job. >> and just celebrate you. >> i would have relieved you of your duty? >> that's an idiot. >> kelly o'donnell, you were up on the hill yesterday. aside from all the fireworks, we saw some good pieces of videotape there. did we learn anything new actually about what happened on september 11th in benghazi? is there any new information to come out of that hearing? >> well, there were some threads and details that were interesting, i thought. secretary clinton talked about the fact that they did not have access to the surveillance video that showed what went on for a period of weeks. i
is a lightweight, a guy who did a horrible job running john mccain's campaign. >> i always said the worst president was jimmy carter. guess what. jimmy carter goes to second place. barack obama has been the worst president ever. >> oh, donald, little advice here tonight. don't take your frustration out on dead spin. they only told you what the rest of the country has been thinking for years. tonight in our survey, i ask you, do republicans finally realize the consequences of holding the economy hostage? 31% of you say yes. 69% of you say no. >>> coming up, the controversy overcoming clean. find out why lance armstrong's confession is not impressing the people who matter most. we'll talk about that with a psychologist next. >> big finish tonight, while we're human from time to time, we'll say things that aren't true. some try to keep their lives going, others come clean. this week lance armstrong decided to confess his lies to oprah in front of about 3.2 million viewers. he admits he cheated so he could win seven tour de france titles. he says he would do anything to win, including bullying other ri
they have to pass, you already see that eight senators including lindsey graham and mccain and now increasingly marco rub yo, the three republicans that are saying we need comprehensive immigration reform. we need to pass a law and legislation that addresses a pathway to citizenship, second class citizenship, temporary status will not work. it has to be comprehensive and one element protects the unity of families, there are 11 million undocumented that have five million citizen is children and 2 million dreamers. we cannot divide them. it has to be earned. you have to get to the end of the line, you need -- at the end of the day it has to be full citizenship that you have a path to. >> ken salazar and others have resigned, no hispanics in the cabinet, in the president's second term, "wall street journal" this morning, i am sure you read the weekend edition, might you be a part of the president's cabinet in the second term? >> first of all, i have a great deal of faith in the president, when it's all said and done, i will have as diverse a cabinet as anyone has. >> you really think
branches. apparently their feelings were hurt. senator mccain says quote, i would have liked to have seen some more outreach. senator thune says he wasn't doing the kind of outreach he needs to do. senator collins says i had hoped his speech would be a little less partisan. senator portman says he missed an opportunity to talk about where we can find common ground. common ground, senator? republicans spent four years not compromising. and not wanting to be on any ground. common or not. with this president. and now they accuse him of not compromising? president obama has learned the lessons of four years of power politics and how to make republicans ied logs sit up and listen. >> medicare and medicaid and social security. these do not zap our initiative. they strengthen us. they do not make us a nation of takers. they free us to take the risks that make this country great. >> you got that, tea partiers? the president went right after the cynical romney/ryan republican view of the world. makers versus takers. calling out the extremists who refuse to listen to the american people. >> we cann
landslide. but senator mccain would have gotten 10 to president obama's 11 at the time. >> i think we all should be aware that states have the right to proportion their votes in any way they want. in nebraska, they already do this. it would be hard to be back -- i will tell you this. we're going to fight it tooth and nail in pennsylvania. thai treed they tried to do it before the last election and we beat it back because we scared the local republicans into thinking that there would be savage repercussions from voters around the state. and i think there would. if we're going do do this, play these games, than the popular vote district, that's a law which says that the states pass a law that they'll give their entire electoral votes to whoever wins. that movement is gaining steam. as soon as states with 271 electoral votes sign on, the popular vote controls who wins the election in america, as i believe it should. >> now, madame chair lady, the american prospect reports on what the bill sponsors in virginia said. >>> so the goal is to win elections with less votes. >> reverend, let me just
to salter with the mccain campaign in 2008. and i said, why did you guys go the path you did? mark salter? i said, why don't you go ahead and push a bill where somebody worked here for five years. they could go back to mexico. they could apply. and they could come and have legal status. why didn't you go that route? americans would have supported that. he laughed. he said, because the afl-cio opposed it. and the one senator that was constantly at the forefront of opposing that form of immigration reform was a senator from illinois named barack obama. he carried their water on blocking this pathway to citizenship when he was in the senate. the afl-cio put out a press release yesterday talking about the importance of not compromising on citizenship. so the unions themselves -- there are a lot of cross-currents here. the unions themselves don't want an influx of new workers in america, do they? >> no, they don't. that's one of the reasons this organizing for action, jim messina's full-time job is trying to get the union's in line, but it's going to be hard. it's hard on the democratic side. we'
hillary clinton in 2008, allowed him to beat john mccain in that general election. and you see those numbers, what they were in january, 2009. >> i forget how much people didn't like that war. and still don't like that war to this day. and that brings us to our nbc "wall street journal" poll we will have tonight and tomorrow morning. >> 6:30 tonight with the first numbers. >> get over to first read and see all of mark's breakdowns. >> thanks, chuck. >>> now to breaking news out of the african nation of algeria, conflicting reports about that hostage situation at a gas plant in the sahara desert. al qaeda-linked militants and local residents claim algerian military helicopters attacked the site this morning. killing at least 15 kidnappers and 35 hostages. a group believed to include foreign civilians. however, an algerian security source tells reuters that dozens of those hostages actually escaped. and yet another report says some hostages are still being held. according to the militants, the kidnapping is present to protest french military strikes against the islamist rebels in mali.
it was a great thing. as i look back, it may have been a mistake the way it was constructed. not that mccain and feingold. it produced some of the parts of the system that we find repug nant today. nbc news presidential historian michael besslass, thank you. the u.s. military on the hostage stabbedoff in algeria. we'll have the latest details coming up next. at 1:45, the aflac duck was brought in with multiple lacerations to the wing and a fractured beak. surgery was successful, but he will be in a cast until it is fully healed, possibly several months. so, if the duck isn't able to work, how will he pay for his living expenses? aflac. like his rent and car payments? aflac. what about gas and groceries? aflac. cell phone? aflac, but i doubt he'll be using his phone for quite a while cause like i said, he has a fractured beak. [ male announcer ] send the aflac duck a get-well card at getwellduck.com. >> president obama is receiving updates at a hostage situation at a bp plant in algeria. they launched a military operation to rescue the dozens of foreign national from more than ten countries t
and with people who are not republicans. >> it's why john mccain was popular in 2000. why chris christie has a honeymoon and why barack obama even though the approval late rate at 48%, 49% on policy, he has a high personal rating and 72% of the public like him and i think because he's not been touched by scandal, not been called out as someone to say one thing and do the other. that his whole brand, the post part son pragmatic brand is why he was elected overwhelmingly in 2008 and with all the excitement that's around the last inauguration. now, you can argue he hasn't livered up to the potential but that brand, that notion that you can trust me is what people are looking for in all of their institutions, especially this town. >> great article there. interesting insight. a lot to chew on. >> thank you. >> thank you, ron. good to see you. hope to see you again. >> take care. >> thank you. >>> the body of a chicago man who may have been poisoned before collecting the lottery winnings is exhumed. that looks at the top stories. the authorities say they hope another autopsy of the man will help s
running john mccain's campaign. >> i always said the worst president was jimmy carter. guess what. jimmy carter goes to second place. barack obama has been the worst president ever. >> oh, donald, little advice here tonight. don't take your frustration out on dead spin. they only told you what the rest of the country has been thinking for years. tonight in our survey, i ask you, do republicans finally realize the consequences of holding the economy hostage? 31% of you say yes. 69% of you say no. >>> coming up, the controversy overcoming clean. find out why lance armstrong's confession is not impressing the people who matter most. we'll talk about that with a psychologist next. [ male announcer ] coughequence™ #8. waking the baby. [ coughs ] [ baby crying ] ♪ [ male announcer ] robitussin® liquid formula soothes your throat on contact and the active ingredient relieves your cough. robitussin®. don't suffer the coughequences™. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it does
him to beat hillary clinton and beat john mccain in the 2008 general election and it's important to note that four years ago as president obama was taking the oath of office, there were 140,000 troops in iraq, now that number is just 200. so a pretty significant change in that country and certainly one of the issues that maybe we're not talking about as much as we should be. >> all right. mark murray, nbc new senior political editor. thank you, sir. >> thanks, craig. >> a potential breakthrough is being treated with skepticism. house republicans on friday announced a plan to extend the debt ceiling deadline until mid-april. >> we will extend the debt limit until the timeline when you have a budget and a road map so you stop digging yourself in the hole. part of not having the budget is what's gotten us into this problem in the first place. >> of course, at stake here is the credibility of the u.s. economy and the united states can befall to the national debt and it does not increase the bar. joining me now is the political staff writer, art shapiro, white house correspondent for
adull terer newt gingrich who called the speech goofy left wingism. then the bitter john mccain complained that there wasn't enough bipartisanship, which is particularly rich. and "the wall street journal" described it as contemptuous talk. what do these people want, the president to announce he was going to invade iran? >> it's funny, newt gingrich in an interview said he felt like 80% of the speech that reagan could have delivered this speech. what he thought was the liberal kind of gobbledygook i think was around climate change. i also remember that newt gingrich -- >> stop laughing, karen. >> -- was sitting on a couch with nancy pelosi talking about the need to address climate change. he's seemingly had a change of heart around that. this is to be expected. the president gives a speech that's the most robust defense of liberalism that he has given that has probably been given in public in the last 10 or 20 years -- >> you say that but actually the context of the speech was embracing the nation. he was trying to be inclusive. >> right. >> i think that's right. he had that lin
to be useful an i have a lot of respect for carl levin, lamar alexander, chuck schumer, john mccain, ben cardin, the people that worked on this along with the leaders so i wouldn't judge it to be a failed -- failure just yet. >> i want to pull out the lens a little bit. we have an asymmetrical problem and we have the senate and congress, as well. do you agree with that conception? >> no. i absolutely agree with that conception. and it's in the epilogue of my book. i think norm and tom are right that it's the movement of the republicans to the right, and frankly, i believe that the obstruction strategy followed by the senate republicans for the last four years and particularly during the national economic crisis was absolutely the wrong thing for the country. fortunately, i think it turned out to be the wrong thing for them, as well. >> ira, while we're dishing out advice for republicans, let's look at senate democrats for a second. they haven't passed a budget since 2009 and "the washington post" has a piece out right now sort of trying to address why that may be. an answer they give is a budge
ceiling. john mccain's decision, i support the decision. i think women are fully qualified to carry out the mission but i want to see the same physical standard requirements. nothing of the like of a change, women would have to fit the same requirements that are in place right now for men. what is your reaction? >> i think they're not too difficult to attain. young people whether they're men or women can quite easily attain the physical standards established for the forces. there are different physical forces for special operations forces, for rangers for s.e.a.l.s and so on. they're more difficult to attain but for infantry, armor, artillery units, i don't think women, young people have any problem whatsoever with them. >> i think it's interesting and people may not realize that women limited and i want to pull up the number. quinnipiac poll, should women be allowed to serve in combat roles? 75% say yes. 22% say no. also limited how far they could rank in the military. >> if you increase the number of women who are in combat roles, in combat units, you're by definition increasing the a
as there is also opposition. remember, some senators, like senator mccain, think this is the right thing to do. i'm told in talking to officials here that president obama believes this is the right thing to do. a number of his advisers believe this is the right thing to do. this is not something that's going to be implemented overnight, of course. there's going to be a lot of thought put into what women are serving in what positions, but this is something that president obama believed certainly in consultation with his defense team was the way to move forward. >> nbc's kristin welker, thank you, kristin. >>> next, why some on president obama's team had second thoughts on using this. stay with us. ♪ america, america god shed his grace on thee ♪ [ construction sounds ] ♪ [ watch ticking ] [ engine revs ] come in. ♪ got the coffee. that was fast. we're outta here. ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may h
weren't. john mccain said i would have liked to see a little more on outreach and working together. there was not, as i have seen in other inaugural speeches. i want to work with my colleagues. and i'm wondering what you think about this approach and i think that the push-back isn't surprising as much as we're surprised by just how strongly worded it was. >> republicans wasted no time whatsoever rebuking the president and the president, to be fair, this was not a speech about conciliation or compromise and in fact, the clip we heard about a nation of takers, referring to medicare and medicaid and social security, was basically a direct rebuke to congressman paul ryan, who was mitt romney's running mate. so the republicans have lots to bicker with, lots to single out in the president's inauguration speech, including the president didn't write it with the thinking of this is going to be a reach across the aisle type of message. >> yeah, obviously a very clear choice he made. let me play for you what senator tom coburn just said on "morning joe." >> i think he missed some opportunitie
's opponent john mccain seemed to be getting momentum the entire global economy crashed. precisely because obama's election the first time was and is viewed by a sizable majority of americans as a fluke or one off sentimental indulgence his re-election is all the more significant for what it says about american politics and the ongoing trauma of race. by 2016 a child born in the first hours of the 21st century will have lived half her life and her most formtive years with a black president. joining me at the table of ben jealous president and ceo of the naacp. julian malveaux author of "surviving and thriving" 365 facts in black economic history. congresswoman donna edwards democrat from maryland and bill fletcher jr., author of "they're bankrupting us and 20 our myths about unions" editorial member for black commentator.com and senior fellow. it is wonderful to have you here. >> thanks for inviting us. >> i want to start with my good friend and colleague melissa harris-perry who had her first lean forward ad online yesterday shot down in new orleans. take a look because it perfectly artic
end and if john mccain has been elected -- >> we might be somewhere else. >> a big twiens between 2008 and 2012 is that in '08 we had a big debate about iraq. and that's why he's president now in large part but in 2012, because mitt romney seated foreign policy to barack obama and the republicans have come off if not weak, at least, with the president on a lot of the things he's for, the american people i think, lost out on what's usually a very important part of a presidential election which is air debate about some of the big things that america is doing on their behalf. whether it the drone program or afghanistan or whatever it is, we didn't really talk about it that much because there was mostly agreement. >> republicans reduced the foreign policy conversation to whether or not the president was on an apology tour. >> and mitt romney and i said this sitting at the anchor test on the night of the third debate where mitt romney basically agreed more than hi disagreed and said, yeah, wreshd debate these things. disagreement is important. >> can i just say, we need to -- in this contex
've got some congressional numbers. congress, as john mccain likes to say, when congress is at 14% approval rating, they're down to close relatives and paid staff. >> i want to find the 14%. >> friends and family, that's all. >> 81% disapprove. and then on the republican party, 49% have a negative view of the republican party. just 26% positive. that's their highest negative number since back in 2008, the year president obama first got elected. democrats not doing much better, but better, 38% view the democratic party negatively. so gene, the president's had a pretty good time politically since the election. republicans are starting to figure out how to come back. to the extent republicans have leverage in the upcoming talks, particularly on fiscal issues, where do you think their leverage lies given how unpopular they are and how unpopular congress is? >> well, i think they have less leverage than some people think they have. i mean, i think it would be, frankly, another disaster if republicans try to use the debt ceiling, to force dollar-for-dollar budget reductions. i don't see
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